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	<title>Comments on: BCMSN Notes &#8212; STP States</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. To add to it, it might be helpful to insert the timing events as I&#039;ve seen that on tests before - Blocking (20s), Listening (15s), Learning (15s) and BPDUs every 2s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. To add to it, it might be helpful to insert the timing events as I&#8217;ve seen that on tests before &#8211; Blocking (20s), Listening (15s), Learning (15s) and BPDUs every 2s.</p>
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		<title>By: shivlu jain</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2009/05/21/bcmsn-notes-stp-states/comment-page-1/#comment-17988</link>
		<dc:creator>shivlu jain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice explanation.

regards
shivlu jain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice explanation.</p>
<p>regards<br />
shivlu jain</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Conaway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Conaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Iain.  STP is an old design of an old technology that needs to go.  Like you said, the VSS or StackWise technologies are vastly superior in that they don&#039;t require STP to run among the cluster of switches.  Is it not possible to run the same stacking technology on an Ethernet port (within reason)?

Since these are pretty new, though, you&#039;re right again to say that STP will be on the test for years and years.

Thanks for posting and keep contributing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you, Iain.  STP is an old design of an old technology that needs to go.  Like you said, the VSS or StackWise technologies are vastly superior in that they don&#8217;t require STP to run among the cluster of switches.  Is it not possible to run the same stacking technology on an Ethernet port (within reason)?</p>
<p>Since these are pretty new, though, you&#8217;re right again to say that STP will be on the test for years and years.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting and keep contributing!</p>
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		<title>By: Iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please allow a fellow CCNP (BCMSN) seeker to vent about STP.

STP needs to die. 6500 Multi-chassis Etherchannel (VSS) and Cross-stack etherchannel on the 3750s will probably replace STP-based designed completely.  This being said, I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll keep STP in the cert tracks for years and years because the consultants will need it when they work on out-dated networks.  Why would anyone want to use an over-complicated technology that actually blocks one of the uplinks?!  Etherchannel or L3 at the access layer are technologies that actually allow the use of *both* uplinks.



PS What out for weird wireless questions on the BCMSN test.  I got like four or five questions regarding the LEDs and GUI of the relatively obscure Cisco PCMCIA wireless card (doesn&#039;t everyone use integrated wireless now?!).  The thing that really burned me was that the Official Exam Certification Guide didn&#039;t cover this product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please allow a fellow CCNP (BCMSN) seeker to vent about STP.</p>
<p>STP needs to die. 6500 Multi-chassis Etherchannel (VSS) and Cross-stack etherchannel on the 3750s will probably replace STP-based designed completely.  This being said, I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll keep STP in the cert tracks for years and years because the consultants will need it when they work on out-dated networks.  Why would anyone want to use an over-complicated technology that actually blocks one of the uplinks?!  Etherchannel or L3 at the access layer are technologies that actually allow the use of *both* uplinks.</p>
<p>PS What out for weird wireless questions on the BCMSN test.  I got like four or five questions regarding the LEDs and GUI of the relatively obscure Cisco PCMCIA wireless card (doesn&#8217;t everyone use integrated wireless now?!).  The thing that really burned me was that the Official Exam Certification Guide didn&#8217;t cover this product.</p>
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