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	<title>Comments on: Storm Control</title>
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		<title>By: Tushar</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-32354</link>
		<dc:creator>Tushar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys,
We have similar issue in our network.
We are using Dell power connect switches &amp; Avaya Phones in our network.
&#160;Sometimes users connect both ports of Avaya phone to a 8 port switch, which makes loop in network &amp; whole site goes down. We already have STP running but it doesn&#039;t work as Avaya phone works like a hub. Is there any solution for this issue. &#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys,<br />
We have similar issue in our network.<br />
We are using Dell power connect switches &amp; Avaya Phones in our network.<br />
&nbsp;Sometimes users connect both ports of Avaya phone to a 8 port switch, which makes loop in network &amp; whole site goes down. We already have STP running but it doesn&#039;t work as Avaya phone works like a hub. Is there any solution for this issue. &nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-23387</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just reading a bit here. A really nasty issue is when a single miniswitch or hub is looped on the hub itself and has only a single link to your switched fabric. BPDU Guard does not readily work here but a storm control of 20 will. We have also found a unicast level (like in the description above) set to about 30 will suffice and multicast levels to about 50 so ghosting is supported. If you have found more suffice levels please forward.

Thanks
Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading a bit here. A really nasty issue is when a single miniswitch or hub is looped on the hub itself and has only a single link to your switched fabric. BPDU Guard does not readily work here but a storm control of 20 will. We have also found a unicast level (like in the description above) set to about 30 will suffice and multicast levels to about 50 so ghosting is supported. If you have found more suffice levels please forward.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Conaway</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Conaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt.  When this happened, I turned off spanning tree on a 2950, plugged a crossover cable from f0/1 to f0/2, and plugged in my Windows laptop to f0/3.   I started to ping the IP of the switch, but, before five packets came back, the switch completely stopped responding.  When I unplugged my laptop, it came back.  It was pretty cool, actually.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt.  When this happened, I turned off spanning tree on a 2950, plugged a crossover cable from f0/1 to f0/2, and plugged in my Windows laptop to f0/3.   I started to ping the IP of the switch, but, before five packets came back, the switch completely stopped responding.  When I unplugged my laptop, it came back.  It was pretty cool, actually.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba-Jay</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1845</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba-Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it doesn&#039;t take much broadcast traffic in order for a lethal storm to get started.  Taking down several newer switches like that is no joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it doesn&#8217;t take much broadcast traffic in order for a lethal storm to get started.  Taking down several newer switches like that is no joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Conaway</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Conaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bubba-jay:  Right-o -- hubs are alright as long as you don&#039;t get any loops.  BTW, I edited the article for a little more clarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bubba-jay:  Right-o &#8212; hubs are alright as long as you don&#8217;t get any loops.  BTW, I edited the article for a little more clarity.</p>
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		<title>By: bubba-jay</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>bubba-jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t exactly clear on how the hub got connected twice to your switch fabric, but I guess somehow it was and that&#039;s what caused the switching loops you&#039;re talking about.  Absent that second uplink to your switches, you&#039;d probably be OK with that hub connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t exactly clear on how the hub got connected twice to your switch fabric, but I guess somehow it was and that&#8217;s what caused the switching loops you&#8217;re talking about.  Absent that second uplink to your switches, you&#8217;d probably be OK with that hub connected.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Conaway</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Conaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely right, Sebastian.  That would fix the problem of hooking up random switches and ill-fated hubs to the network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely right, Sebastian.  That would fix the problem of hooking up random switches and ill-fated hubs to the network.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Graf</title>
		<link>http://aconaway.com/2008/05/15/storm-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1103</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Graf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron,

in this specific situation you would get the same benefit with Spanning Tree BPDU Guard, assuming the ports attached to the hub were configured with portfast.

This way you do not need to worry about the correct levels of broadcasts/unicasts/multicasts. The port will just be disabled if it recieves a BPDU, which would obviously happen in the situation you described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron,</p>
<p>in this specific situation you would get the same benefit with Spanning Tree BPDU Guard, assuming the ports attached to the hub were configured with portfast.</p>
<p>This way you do not need to worry about the correct levels of broadcasts/unicasts/multicasts. The port will just be disabled if it recieves a BPDU, which would obviously happen in the situation you described above.</p>
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